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 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the shower)
2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and Juliet
and The Mission)
3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
One I do not like that much is Vangelis, who sounds a bit "electronic" to
me.
These guys have just lifted the movies they contributed to a new level. They
should be given more awards and money if possible.
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Richard Schultz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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In article <g5kc9r$vg2$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael <michaelwynn2@gmail.com> wrote:
: 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the shower)
: 2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and Juliet
: and The Mission)
: 3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
So you *are* a troll. Although "Godsmith" was almost as funny as the two
movies you chose to illustrate his talents.
P.S. Next time, you should try to avoid giving away the game by mixing
up Ennio Morricone and Nino Rota.
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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Richard Schultz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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In article <g5khj5$2m4$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael <michaelwynn2@gmail.com> wrote:
: So I forgot an "a" in Indiana Jones. So what. Can any of you honestly say
: that you don't remember the soundtracks I mentioned? Even if you dislike the
: films, these sounds are stuck in our minds forever. And yes, I like talking
: about films. I will not appologise for that, I think.
You *should* be apologizing for top posting, and for attributing to
Ennio Morricone a score that was actually written by Nino Rota. I don't
think that any serious musician would put John Williams in the top three
film composers if that list fails to include (as one example) Bernard
Herrmann. The great majority of Williams's scores are pastiche at best.
Of the movies that I have seen that were scored by John Williams, the only
ones in which I found the score particularly memorable were _Jaws_,
_Family Plot_, and _Catch Me If You Can_.
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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The only really perfect love is one that gets away. |
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Richard Schultz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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In article <y_ydnZolg65baODVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kingo Gondo <kingo_nospam_gondo@gmail.com> wrote:
: Foreign to whom? Mr. Schultz is in Israel, so most of us are foreign to him.
It may be rice wine to you, but it's sake to me.
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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On Jul 16, 5:55 am, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Richard Schultz wrote:
In article <g5kc9r$vg...@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael <michaelwy....@gmail.com> wrote:
: 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the shower)
: 2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and Juliet
: and The Mission)
: 3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
So you *are* a troll.
Now, now, don't confuse a "troll" with just your average garden-variety
possible-foreigner-slash-n00b who desperately wants to post, but doesn't
have the wherewithal to keep one central coherent or topic-experienced
thought fluidly progressing from the beginning of the post to the ending.
Although "Godsmith" was almost as funny as the two
movies you chose to illustrate his talents.
P.S. Next time, you should try to avoid giving away the game by mixing
up Ennio Morricone and Nino Rota.
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And I don't recall a western about "Indian Jones".
It was a failed TV pilot with Johnny Mack Brown and Iron Eyes Cody. |
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Michael
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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Ok, I seem to have forgotten an l in Jerry Goldsmith. Since I am making
another posting, I would also like to mention Bill Conti (Dynasty, Falcon
Crest and Rocky) and some British people: Patrick Gowers who wrote the theme
to the Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett. That theme with the horses
riding in is just the standard Victorian Sherlock Holmes sound. Also Ken
Howard and Alan Blaikley for the Miss Marple theme for the 80s and 90s tv
series.
Now I promise I won't write postings for a while since I have written so
many recently.
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| Quote: | 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the
shower)
2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and
Juliet and The Mission)
3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
One I do not like that much is Vangelis, who sounds a bit "electronic" to
me.
These guys have just lifted the movies they contributed to a new level.
They should be given more awards and money if possible.
mike
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Derek Janssen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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Richard Schultz wrote:
| Quote: | In article <g5kc9r$vg2$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael <michaelwynn2@gmail.com> wrote:
: 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the shower)
: 2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and Juliet
: and The Mission)
: 3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
So you *are* a troll.
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Now, now, don't confuse a "troll" with just your average garden-variety
possible-foreigner-slash-n00b who desperately wants to post, but doesn't
have the wherewithal to keep one central coherent or topic-experienced
thought fluidly progressing from the beginning of the post to the ending.
| Quote: | Although "Godsmith" was almost as funny as the two
movies you chose to illustrate his talents.
P.S. Next time, you should try to avoid giving away the game by mixing
up Ennio Morricone and Nino Rota.
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And I don't recall a western about "Indian Jones".
Derek Janssen (maybe it was a Bollywood picture?)
ejanss1@verizon.net |
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Michael
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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I am sorry. I seem to have gotten Nino Rotta and Morricone confused. Well,
nobody is perfect. I realise that these people i mentioned are very, very
"comercial", but they have done their jobs well, and we all remember them
and their films even if they are comercial. They have made the soundtracks
to some of the most famous films and Tv shows in history. And that is no
small thing. I can't see how this makes me a "troll".
"Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> skrev i melding
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| Quote: | In article <g5kc9r$vg2$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael
michaelwynn2@gmail.com> wrote:
: 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the
shower)
: 2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and
Juliet
: and The Mission)
: 3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
So you *are* a troll. Although "Godsmith" was almost as funny as the two
movies you chose to illustrate his talents.
P.S. Next time, you should try to avoid giving away the game by mixing
up Ennio Morricone and Nino Rota.
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Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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There's something I must tell you, there's something I must say:
The only really perfect love is one that gets away. |
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Michael
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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So I forgot an "a" in Indiana Jones. So what. Can any of you honestly say
that you don't remember the soundtracks I mentioned? Even if you dislike the
films, these sounds are stuck in our minds forever. And yes, I like talking
about films. I will not appologise for that, I think.
"Derek Janssen" <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> skrev i melding
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| Quote: | Richard Schultz wrote:
In article <g5kc9r$vg2$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael
michaelwynn2@gmail.com> wrote:
: 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the
shower)
: 2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and
Juliet : and The Mission)
: 3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
So you *are* a troll.
Now, now, don't confuse a "troll" with just your average garden-variety
possible-foreigner-slash-n00b who desperately wants to post, but doesn't
have the wherewithal to keep one central coherent or topic-experienced
thought fluidly progressing from the beginning of the post to the ending.
Although "Godsmith" was almost as funny as the two
movies you chose to illustrate his talents.
P.S. Next time, you should try to avoid giving away the game by mixing
up Ennio Morricone and Nino Rota.
And I don't recall a western about "Indian Jones".
Derek Janssen (maybe it was a Bollywood picture?)
ejanss1@verizon.net |
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Kingo Gondo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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"Derek Janssen" <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Richard Schultz wrote:
In article <g5kc9r$vg2$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael
michaelwynn2@gmail.com> wrote:
: 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the
shower)
: 2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and
Juliet : and The Mission)
: 3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
So you *are* a troll.
Now, now, don't confuse a "troll" with just your average garden-variety
possible-foreigner-slash-n00b
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Foreign to whom? Mr. Schultz is in Israel, so most of us are foreign to him.
Some more than others, obviously. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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On Jul 16, 1:40 pm, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go...@gmail.com>
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"Richard Schultz" <schu...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote in message
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In article <g5khj5$2m...@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael
michaelwy...@gmail.com> wrote:
: So I forgot an "a" in Indiana Jones. So what. Can any of you honestly
say
: that you don't remember the soundtracks I mentioned? Even if you
dislike the
: films, these sounds are stuck in our minds forever. And yes, I like
talking
: about films. I will not appologise for that, I think.
You *should* be apologizing for top posting, and for attributing to
Ennio Morricone a score that was actually written by Nino Rota. I don't
think that any serious musician would put John Williams in the top three
film composers if that list fails to include (as one example) Bernard
Herrmann.
Oh, that's right, this was about the "3 best composer". Goldsmith makes
the list for me, since he's just an astonishing favorite of mine. But
Williams? Morricone? Feh.
If you are throwing Morricone under the bus, thems fighting words. Once Upon
A Time In America has a miraculous score, almost literally--the film could
not possibly work without it, and only it.
I'll go with Herrmann and Morricone and a wild card.
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The wild card: Miklos Rozsa (BEN-HUR, EL CID, KING OF KINGS,
SPELLBOUND, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, THE LOST WEEKEND, THE KILLERS, CRISS
CROSS, DESERT FURY, THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, THE PRIVATE
FILES OF J. EDGAR HOOVER, THE GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD, FEDORA, etc.) |
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Marv Soloff
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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Michael wrote:
| Quote: | 1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the shower)
2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and Juliet
and The Mission)
3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
One I do not like that much is Vangelis, who sounds a bit "electronic" to
me.
These guys have just lifted the movies they contributed to a new level. They
should be given more awards and money if possible.
mike
Where is Dimitri Tiomkin and where is Erich Korngold? What are these |
guys - Chopped liver?
Marv |
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Michael
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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I must agree that the Hitchcock guy, Bernard Herman, rather appeals to me.
He should be on the list no doubt. Tiomkin I had almost forgotten. Sorry. I
guess I am not old enough to remember their music, even if I remember and
enjoyed the movies they contributed to. Also, I must confess that even if i
liked the soundtracks I mentioned, there is a tendencey in modern big films
to be a little to "pompous" in the music. I am thinking in particular of
films like U-571, in which there are big horn sections as the submarine goes
to sea. Socalled hero-music. Especially when there is some form of army
scene. I just don't like "patriotic" music. That really annoys me sometimes.
It seems to me that great films that are a bit understated are better, such
as Escape from Alcatraz, 3 days of Condor and The French Connection. I
stand by my views of the composers I mentioned though, even if all their
works doesn't meet the same standard. Ask the Star Wars fans whether they
didn't like williams' music.
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| Quote: | Michael wrote:
1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the
shower)
2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and
Juliet and The Mission)
3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
One I do not like that much is Vangelis, who sounds a bit "electronic" to
me.
These guys have just lifted the movies they contributed to a new level.
They should be given more awards and money if possible.
mike
Where is Dimitri Tiomkin and where is Erich Korngold? What are these
guys - Chopped liver?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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| Quote: | Michael wrote:
1. John Williams (Star Wars and Indian Jones, left me singing in the
shower)
2. Ennio Morricone (Good the bad and the ugly, Themes from Romeo and
Juliet and The Mission)
3. Jerry Godsmith (Man From Uncle and Star Trek Voyager)
One I do not like that much is Vangelis, who sounds a bit "electronic" to
me.
These guys have just lifted the movies they contributed to a new level.
They should be given more awards and money if possible.
mike
Where is Dimitri Tiomkin and where is Erich Korngold? What are these
guys - Chopped liver?
Marv
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Yeah....and where's David Raksin? Huh? |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: 3 best movie composer of all time |
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On Jul 16, 7:40�pm, le...@my-deja.com wrote:
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"Jim Beaver" <jumble...@prodigy.spam> wrote in message
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In article <g5khj5$2m...@registered.motzarella.org>, Michael
michaelwy...@gmail.com> wrote:
: So I forgot an "a" in Indiana Jones. So what. Can any of you honestly
say
: that you don't remember the soundtracks I mentioned? Even if you
dislike the
: films, these sounds are stuck in our minds forever. And yes, I like
talking
: about films. I will not appologise for that, I think.
You *should* be apologizing for top posting, and for attributing to
Ennio Morricone a score that was actually written by Nino Rota. �I don't
think that any serious musician would put John Williams in the top three
film composers if that list fails to include (as one example) Bernard
Herrmann.
Oh, that's right, this was about the "3 best composer". �Goldsmith makes
the list for me, since he's just an astonishing favorite of mine. �But
Williams? Morricone? �Feh.
If you are throwing Morricone under the bus, thems fighting words. Once Upon
A Time In America has a miraculous score, almost literally--the film could
not possibly work without it, and only it.
I'll go with Herrmann and Morricone and a wild card.
The wild card: Miklos Rozsa (BEN-HUR, EL CID, KING OF KINGS,
SPELLBOUND, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, THE LOST WEEKEND, THE KILLERS, CRISS
CROSS, DESERT FURY, THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES, THE PRIVATE
FILES OF J. EDGAR HOOVER, THE GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD, FEDORA, etc.)- Hide quoted text -
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It took this long for someone to mention Rozsa? He would be my #1.
Second would be Korngold. Maybe Bernstein (Elmer) at third. At the
opposite end would be Steiner and Hefti.
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