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Converting 16:9 to 4:3
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P.C. Ford
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

Am assembling footage for a corporate video. The client has given me
several DVDs. Some of these are 16:9 and some are 4:3.

What is the best way to convert the 16:9 for use in a 4:3 video? The
par dimension of the the 16:9 is 1.

I am asking about resizing not DVD to AVI conversion. I have Super
file converter as well as Premiere CS3.


Thanks for any insight.
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Larry in AZ
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

Waiving the right to remain silent, P.C. Ford <meoh@mouse-potato.com> said:

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What is the best way to convert the 16:9 for use in a 4:3 video?

Letterbox if you need to see everything. Otherwise, you can crop the sides,
or use pan-and-scan, which will be the most labor intensive.

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Larry Jandro
Video Engineering & Equipment Rentals
Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
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Jack Perry
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

P.C. Ford wrote:
Quote:
Am assembling footage for a corporate video. The client has given me
several DVDs. Some of these are 16:9 and some are 4:3.

What is the best way to convert the 16:9 for use in a 4:3 video? The
par dimension of the the 16:9 is 1.

I am asking about resizing not DVD to AVI conversion. I have Super
file converter as well as Premiere CS3.


Thanks for any insight.


Just make sure that the project format is 4x3 in Premiere Pro CS3 and it
will automatically add the black bars at the top. Same goes for Encore...
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P.C. Ford
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:49:38 -0400, Jack Perry
<vidpro40@optonline.net> wrote:

Quote:
P.C. Ford wrote:
Am assembling footage for a corporate video. The client has given me
several DVDs. Some of these are 16:9 and some are 4:3.

What is the best way to convert the 16:9 for use in a 4:3 video? The
par dimension of the the 16:9 is 1.

I am asking about resizing not DVD to AVI conversion. I have Super
file converter as well as Premiere CS3.


Thanks for any insight.


Just make sure that the project format is 4x3 in Premiere Pro CS3 and it
will automatically add the black bars at the top. Same goes for Encore...

Sorry guys, don't know where that par dimension came from. It's late.

Here are some descriptors from Super file converter:
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480
Height : 480 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 0.844
Display Aspect ratio : 1.778
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9

Does that make it any clearer? Do I have to do anything with the pixel
aspect ratio? Also, don't understand why it is 720 x 480 yet is 16/9.

Thanks guys.
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Netmask
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

"P.C. Ford" <meoh@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:49:38 -0400, Jack Perry
vidpro40@optonline.net> wrote:

P.C. Ford wrote:
Am assembling footage for a corporate video. The client has given me
several DVDs. Some of these are 16:9 and some are 4:3.

What is the best way to convert the 16:9 for use in a 4:3 video? The
par dimension of the the 16:9 is 1.

I am asking about resizing not DVD to AVI conversion. I have Super
file converter as well as Premiere CS3.


Thanks for any insight.


Just make sure that the project format is 4x3 in Premiere Pro CS3 and it
will automatically add the black bars at the top. Same goes for Encore...

Sorry guys, don't know where that par dimension came from. It's late.

Here are some descriptors from Super file converter:
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480
Height : 480 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 0.844
Display Aspect ratio : 1.778
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9

Does that make it any clearer? Do I have to do anything with the pixel
aspect ratio? Also, don't understand why it is 720 x 480 yet is 16/9.

Thanks guys.

just set your project in whatever editing program you use to 4:3 that's what
you want to end up with.
The reference to 720 x 480 is the resolution not the aspect ratio
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Larry in AZ
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

Waiving the right to remain silent, P.C. Ford <meoh@mouse-potato.com> said:

Quote:
Here are some descriptors from Super file converter:
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480
Height : 480 pixels
Pixel Aspect Ratio : 0.844
Display Aspect ratio : 1.778
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9

Does that make it any clearer? Do I have to do anything with the pixel
aspect ratio? Also, don't understand why it is 720 x 480 yet is 16/9.

It's "anamorph" 16:9. In other words, you've got a 4:3 aspect ratio image in
real pixels, with the horizontal dimension squeezed. It's intended to be
unsqueezed by the display device.

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Larry Jandro
Video Engineering & Equipment Rentals
Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
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nobody special
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

He can unsqueeze it using a DVE horizontal scaling effect in his NLE
system. Right click on the clip and it will be under "properties" or
"transform" or something like that. Different depending on specific
system, but they can all do it.

I say center-punch the 16x9 shots to get a 4x3 and then it will
intercut with all the other SD 4x3 just fine, end of story.
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P.C. Ford
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: Converting 16:9 to 4:3 Reply with quote

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:32:02 -0700 (PDT), nobody special
<msu1049321@aol.com> wrote:


Thanks for your contributions, gentlemen.

One thing I did not tell you….the footage is usually made up of the
content of what once was two 16x9 screens. Sometimes these are
arranged vertically; sometimes they are arranged horizontally
(stacked). It's the content of multiple screens in an exhibit.

So, this is what I have done. See if there is a problem….

I imported the footage (720x480) into Premiere. I interpreted the par
to 1.2. I then scaled the video so that it all fit in the frame.

The down side to this, as someone mentioned, is that the video is much
reduced in size, but all of the original footage is within the frame.
And thus, the original composition is intact. For my purposes right
now…I am logging…I think this is best.

Sound reasonable?

And have a great 4th weekend
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