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David Oberman
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 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
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Crap on a stick; amazingly, LOST WORLD was even worse
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Was LOST WORLD the one with the pterodactyl? I call that one DODGE THE
DINOSAUR. It's just a video game.
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Jesper Lauridsen
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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On 2008-07-15, Adam Cameron <adam_junk@hotmail.com> wrote:
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I have always wondered whether it would have been a better work if the
entire duration of the film was simply 2.5hrs of beach assault. People
would shy away thinking "well... that sux... no plot", but if the idea was
to demonstrate the intensity and relentlessness and grimness of The
Invasion, then it would probably be a reasonable way of doing it. I
imagine an awful lot of what those blokes went through seemed fairly light
on meaning ("plot") at the time.
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Speaking of beach assault, I quite like the D-day scenes in Fuller's The Big
Red One (that, and The Naked Kiss, are the only Fuller movies I like). |
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Adam Cameron
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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| Quote: | Speaking of beach assault, I quite like the D-day scenes in Fuller's The Big
Red One (that, and The Naked Kiss, are the only Fuller movies I like).
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When I first saw TBRO (mid-80s, I suppose... I can recall watching it as a
teenager with my *mum* on (NZ) TV on a Sunday afternoon or something), I
thought it was great, and held the film in the highest esteem for quite
some time.
Then I got the special re-imaged version of it on DVD (missed the short
cinematic run of it at the NFT or LFF or whenever it was on in London), I
thought "god this is dated, and god it's really pretty pedestrian". That
experience kinda spoiled a fond childhood memory of mine. Some things are
best left in the past, I guess.
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Jared
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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On Jul 16, 8:05 am, Adam Cameron <adam_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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I have always wondered whether it would have been a better work if the
entire duration of the film was simply 2.5hrs of beach assault. People
would shy away thinking "well... that sux... no plot", but if the idea was
to demonstrate the intensity and relentlessness and grimness of The
Invasion, then it would probably be a reasonable way of doing it. I
imagine an awful lot of what those blokes went through seemed fairly light
on meaning ("plot") at the time.
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IMO this is pretty much what BLACK HAWK DOWN was. I was much annoyed
to hear people complain it didn't address the politics of US
intervention in Somalia and what not. That wasn't the point of the
film. What I took home was "War is Hell. Modern war? Still Hell." |
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Magnus, Robot Fighter
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:45:44 +0100, Adam Cameron
<adam_junk@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Speaking of beach assault, I quite like the D-day scenes in Fuller's The Big
Red One (that, and The Naked Kiss, are the only Fuller movies I like).
When I first saw TBRO (mid-80s, I suppose... I can recall watching it as a
teenager with my *mum* on (NZ) TV on a Sunday afternoon or something), I
thought it was great, and held the film in the highest esteem for quite
some time.
Then I got the special re-imaged version of it on DVD (missed the short
cinematic run of it at the NFT or LFF or whenever it was on in London), I
thought "god this is dated, and god it's really pretty pedestrian". That
experience kinda spoiled a fond childhood memory of mine. Some things are
best left in the past, I guess.
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I think the bit with Hamill unloading his clip in the concentration
camp and Marvin giving him a new clip is still spectacular....and if
Marvin carrying the kid around on his shoulders didn't move you,
you're dead. |
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Okierazorbacker
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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On Jul 16, 11:23 pm, Jared <bi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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IMO this is pretty much what BLACK HAWK DOWN was. I was much annoyed
to hear people complain it didn't address the politics of US
intervention in Somalia and what not. That wasn't the point of the
film. What I took home was "War is Hell. Modern war? Still Hell."
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BHD is a spectacular film. The only thing I've seen that approaches
"Band of Brothers" and the opening 20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan"
for the sheer visceral feeling of what it must actually be like to be
in battle. If someone makes a more realistic-feeling war movie, I'm
not sure I want to see it. Wow. |
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Adam Cameron
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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| Quote: | I have always wondered whether it would have been a better work if the
entire duration of the film was simply 2.5hrs of beach assault. People
would shy away thinking "well... that sux... no plot", but if the idea was
to demonstrate the intensity and relentlessness and grimness of The
Invasion, then it would probably be a reasonable way of doing it. I
imagine an awful lot of what those blokes went through seemed fairly light
on meaning ("plot") at the time.
IMO this is pretty much what BLACK HAWK DOWN was. I was much annoyed
to hear people complain it didn't address the politics of US
intervention in Somalia and what not. That wasn't the point of the
film. What I took home was "War is Hell. Modern war? Still Hell."
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Agreed. |
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Adam Cameron
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Crappy movies by great directors |
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| Quote: | The Big Red one
Then I got the special re-imaged version of it on DVD (missed the short
cinematic run of it at the NFT or LFF or whenever it was on in London), I
thought "god this is dated, and god it's really pretty pedestrian". That
experience kinda spoiled a fond childhood memory of mine. Some things are
best left in the past, I guess.
I think the bit with Hamill unloading his clip in the concentration
camp and Marvin giving him a new clip is still spectacular....and if
Marvin carrying the kid around on his shoulders didn't move you,
you're dead.
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Sure. I didn't say it was rubbish from start to finish. Sorry if I
suggested that: I didn't mean to. Just not as *really great* as I
remembered it.
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