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fatfatjames
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: deva fusion |
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Hi does any one know what is the reason, that the camera return to
deva fusion is mono? |
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ben
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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I was told by Zaxcom that the limiting factor was the number of A/D
converters they could use. In addition to the main audio inputs, there
is an A/D for the slate mic and one for the camera return. So the
summed return is permanent (not something that will change via
software updates).
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oleg kaizerman
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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Not only fusion but the 5-8 as well , the output connector design is the
same which was used on deva-5 without change
you can sacrifice input channel to get the second return
that was my concern to take deva 16 and use additional 4 analog inputs for
returns on video shots
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Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland
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| Quote: | Hi does any one know what is the reason, that the camera return to
deva fusion is mono? |
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MWeber
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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The limiting factor is really the lack of forethought and poor design
on the part of Zaxcom in my opinion. |
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rich
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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On Jul 15, 12:43 am, ben <blo...@bga.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I was told by Zaxcom that the limiting factor was the number of A/D
converters they could use. In addition to the main audio inputs, there
is an A/D for the slate mic and one for the camera return. So the
summed return is permanent (not something that will change via
software updates).
ben lowry
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that is very disappointing to hear, especially on a unit that is
marketed to be used for eng work. I agree with MWeber, its one thing
that the headphone out of a sony 790 is mono, because we all expect
sony to dictate to us what we should have wanted, but for zaxcom to
not include an extra A/D converter or have an option to swap the slate
mic A/D with the ch2 return when the slate mic button is pressed or
something similar is to miss out a very useful feature. |
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Fernando
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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| Quote: | but for zaxcom to
not include (...)
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It is based on existing hardware... (Deva IV, V, 5. ) |
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MWeber
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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Of course these shortcomings are based upon existing hardware. Zaxcom
chose to ignore industry standards in their designs which has
cheapened their products and prevented them from bringing to market
all the wonderful features they had promised (and charged us for). |
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Billy Sarokin
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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I know a little something about the design and engineering processees
at Zaxcom. I've been watching for 10 years since I ordered my first
Cameo mixer. Everything is a trade off. Yes, they can add more A-D
and D-A converters, but it requires more power and space. In this
case they decided they were better off applying the A to D to the
inputs to give the user as many options as possible. I don't always
agree with their decisions but usually they are right in the end. If
a user needs more returns he or she can always dedicate one of the 8
inputs as an additional return. The simple routing matrix makes it
easy. It's not a perfect solution, but it points out one of the
features I admire my Zaxcom equipment for. They are endlessly
flexible. When I purchased Cameo # 1 in 1998 there were issues at
first (that were very quickly discovered and repaired) but in the
field I was always able to work around any problems via a few clicks
of the mouse (by re-routing signal). 10 years,14 Zaxcom radios, 2
Devas, 2 Cameos and 2 IFB systems later, I am a very happy camper.
You can't please all the people all the time (as MWeber amply
demonstrates) so if the lack of a dedicated stereo return is an issue
look at other machines. I don't think you'll find anything that
offers nearly as much in a similar sized package.
Best,
Billy Sarokin
On Jul 17, 9:20 am, MWeber <weberso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Of course these shortcomings are based upon existing hardware. Zaxcom
chose to ignore industry standards in their designs which has
cheapened their products and prevented them from bringing to market
all the wonderful features they had promised (and charged us for). |
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Jeff Wexler
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: deva fusion |
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In article
<14688c1d-3570-4a1c-b738-ff0ebb4dc841@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
MWeber <webersound@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Of course these shortcomings are based upon existing hardware. Zaxcom
chose to ignore industry standards in their designs which has
cheapened their products and prevented them from bringing to market
all the wonderful features they had promised (and charged us for).
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As Billy S. points out, you can't please all the people all the time,
but Zaxcom has pleased a whole lot of people almost all the time, and I
am one of them. Zaxcom has obviously brought a whole host of "wonderful
features" to market otherwise we wouldn't see so many Devas in use
around the world.
Also, as Billy S. points out, if the Deva is lacking a feature
(delivered, promised or otherwise) that is the highest priority for you,
a "deal breaker" as we say, then you are probably looking at the wrong
machine.
- Jeff Wexler |
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