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 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:16 am Post subject: Fuji 16mm rawstock!!!! |
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A. Film Guy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Fuji 16mm rawstock!!!! |
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"David Mullen" <davidm2@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<54lJa.60149$Io.5627469@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
| Quote: | I see 2003 as the slowest indie production year imaginable.
That's odd because it's my busiest ever, since before the impending SAG
strike of June 2001. 2002 and early 2003 was terrible for work for me.
David Mullen
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David,
Obviously we speak from our own experience... you've been moving up in
budget which may actually help.
The period of time from winter to summer 2001 was busy for a ton of
people- it almost put me in the poor house. Then July that year I
worked non-stop, through 9/11, still non-stop until last
December...then everyhting stopped for me.
When I get a face to face interview I usally land better than one in
two gigs. Since December I've been out on over a dozen face to faces,
three have made offers and then retracted ( got the original / cheaper
/ better DP)
or folded...and I've never before been on any face to face, post-reel
screening interview where they haven't at least shot.
On the other hand this is the year a whole slew of stuff I shot 2, 3,
even 6 years ago is getting some distribution...although often at a
gross loss on the part of the filmmaker.
I've also had one film camera rental house I deal with occasionally
call fishing for leads or at least a feeler and commiserate, though I
seldom trust vendor or manufacturer analysis of anything...they play
hteir cards closer than I.
Threw out the old reel and cutting anew as I write, and figure it'll
work itself around eventually. Or not. I have no control over ebb and
flow of either work or perceptions.
Glad you're busy. |
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Steve Potrero
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Speeded up film? |
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"Joe Sacher" <news@joesacher.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You can "simulate" this effect in video by using a good multiframe blur
tool
in a NLE system.
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I don't ever work with DV, so I suppose I just don't understand the
"technology". Or perhaps it is in principle versus available product? But
why can't a DV movie camera take long exposures? |
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A. Film Guy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:35 am Post subject: Re: help with lubricating bolex h16 rex5 |
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micgolub@aol.com (mike) wrote in message news:<8ad5df7b.0306222035.1f809ccb@posting.google.com>...
| Quote: | Hello
Is it possible to de-oil and oil this camera yourself?
thanks
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It doesnt use oil, needs no lubrication maintenance by user...
You must be thinkinbg of a Filmo.
If the Bolex needs work, it needs an overhaul, not a lube. |
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A. Film Guy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Sun filter? |
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| Quote: | BTW, one does risk eye damage by looking at the sun through a filter not
specifically rated for the purpose.
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Yes they risk blindness.
A thick stack of gaffers glass is oft used to quickly squintingly
judge when the sun will poke out.
Gaffers glass also has other uses, and there are diffrent grades.
The use is totally subjective wqhen looking at a scene, and the glass
is held in and out of the eye repeatedly.
Essentially, it ND's your eyeball for amoment so you can judge
highlight and shadow relationship as film ( or tape) will read it.
After a moment, the eye's iris opens, and the effect is lost: see also
sunglasses. |
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A. Film Guy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Cheap Low-Budget dolly ideas |
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| Quote: | I guess when you go cheap... Anything with wheels.. Wheelchair, Office
Chair, Bike, Piano... some garbage cans have wheels...
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There is always the moving camera platform suggested by an established
prop...
Picture car, skateboard ( the latter can work as a table or counter
top or low angle dolly), shopping cart ( I used two of the latter
lashed together once...I sat in the rear, the front one , in shot,
stuffed with groceries, as we raced through Safeway to get to the
fresh bakery bread, "customers" diving out of the way pushed by a
dolly grip who had to seriously lever-arm the train to keep it from
falling over).
Anything that moves can be a camera platform. You simply must gauge
it's appropriateness to the composition, and transmission of vibration
to the camera and the acceptability or not of same, and any other
limitation.
The body of the operator is often the shock absorber / pan and tilt
head.
See also: handheld aboard moving objects.
Snowboard, skis, wheelbarrow, forklift, skip loader ( have your
dismemmberment insurance paid up with the latter two they are
DANGEROUS).... |
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J.A.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Speeded up film? |
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time lapse, interval recording.. it has different names.
I usually use miniDV and grey filter if sunshine to get blur right on camera
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short exposure time (normal is 50, so 25, 12, 6 and even 3 is usable to get
blur)
but mostly cameras smallest aperture size is too big  grey filter or ND
filter is good
aid...
again most cameras does have this interval rec option but external NLE /
specified software
does it as well.
if miniDV isnt high quality enought, then get normal digistill camera and
software that uses it to
take picture. there is animation softwares that does do the trick but dont
recall name of it.
Placing what ever digital still camera with pretty good lens does work good
as normal filmcamera.
of course you lose "filmlook" but this isnt always problem and can be
brought with in NLE.
..jukka andersson
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| Quote: | I don't ever work with DV, so I suppose I just don't understand the
"technology". Or perhaps it is in principle versus available product?
Welcome to the world of film.
I have enjoyed shooting long exposures since I was a teen (A long time
ago!)
You should try taking long exposures with a 35 mm still camera that has
the
time exposure feature.
I used an old Polaroid model 250 camera and was able to see the still
picture
effect right away. Also, using a Bolex 16 mm camera with the "bulb"
feature
switch when shooting single frames is a good camera to experiment with and
you
will see the action speeded up and image smearing. You can then see the
possibilities for some interesting effects.
Also, you get to learn new curse words like, "Reciprocity Failure"!
Richard
(Fat, Bearded Cinematographer in LA) |
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Steve Potrero
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Speeded up film? |
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Joe, thanks for your reply. I hadn't thought about noise in the image; I
suppose an analogy for the CCD module in this case is to grain in
filmstock -- without the ability to swap out.
I'll have to research "progressive" with respect to "image", and "sampling",
to fully understand what you say about DV. But I did appreciate your reply.
Thanks.
"Joe Sacher" <news@joesacher.com> wrote in message
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It depends on what you are talking about as being long. If you use a
digital still camera, you can go as long as 8 seconds or so. However, you
start to see some serious noise in the CCD imaging module after much more
than 1 second. I think the same thing would cause problems with a DV
camera
if the exposure was allowed to be that long. You also have the problem
that
you are sampling a frame of video to get the "image". In frame mode, this
is a progressive image, but it still can only be 1/30th of a second long,
because another image is coming right along after it.
--
Joe Sacher
Indianapolis, IN
http://joesacher.com
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krakle
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Cheap Low-Budget dolly ideas |
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lacinepro@hotmail.com (A. Film Guy) wrote in message news:<b82d6932.0306231749.615683f6@posting.google.com>...
| Quote: | I guess when you go cheap... Anything with wheels.. Wheelchair, Office
Chair, Bike, Piano... some garbage cans have wheels...
There is always the moving camera platform suggested by an established
prop...
Picture car, skateboard ( the latter can work as a table or counter
top or low angle dolly), shopping cart ( I used two of the latter
lashed together once...I sat in the rear, the front one , in shot,
stuffed with groceries,
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You didn't sit in the baby seat? |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Cool Check this though |
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Robert Morein
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Motion Picture Tripods |
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"Jaxon Bridge" <jxbjxbjxb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I need a tripod for my Canon Scoopic (small 16mm MOS camera). I have
a cheapy tripod for a still camera, and it is not suitable for the
Scoopic, too small and weak. I am wondering if there are special
tripods made for motion picture cameras, or if I should just get a
good tripod at a still camera store. I would like one with a fluid
head or something to allow nice panning and tilting smoothly... any
advice or recommendations?
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There sure are special tripods made for movie cameras.
In spite of the designation "fluid head", still camera work does not have
the requirement for smooth motion.
Movie camera and video tripods, which are quite similar and in some cases
identical, are made of two components which are frequently sold
separately -- the head, and the sticks. The sticks have greater torsional
resistance, and the heads have smoother adjustments than setups made for
still work.
For a scoopic, a video tripod would do.
For lightweight work, I purchased a lightweight Gitzo fluid head from B&H
for around $130. It's rated for about 12 lbs. Belying the modest price, this
head has all the features of the larger fluid heads - adjustable drags,
quick release, 3/8" movie camera standard screw, accessory bowl adaptor.
Another choice sometimes seen reasonably is the old Arri non-fluid head
tripod, which by use of greased washers is still a very smooth head and an
excellent value. Good for cameras up to around 20 lb.
If you have an interest in eventually doing 16mm work, the O'Connor 30 and
O'Connor 50 heads with matching sticks can be found for between $500 and
$800 on eBay. I use the 50 with Eclair ACLs and find it to be an excellent
setup.
Always check the height of the tripod. Many attractive offerings,
particularly those with aluminum sticks, turn out to have been designed for
ENG (electronic news gathering, and elevate to only 5'8". Tripods for movie
work typically go a foot over that.
Movie camera tripods of contemporary manufacture are almost always
unaffordable. |
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MitchGross
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Motion Picture Tripods |
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I'd recommend a Bogen tripod & head. The 501 head should do you very nicely
for a Scoopic. It's about $125 for just the head, but it can be purchased in a
package with a ball adapter (for leveling), double-extension tripod (for great
height adjustability), ground spreaders (for stability) and a carrying bag all
for about $500. It's a good deal on a very complete system.
Mitch |
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Steve Spicer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: FS: 16mm editors, Magnasync M-50 and moviscop, 16mm rewi |
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Don't apologise, just don't do it. Your apology isn't valid. The items
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rare items for auction. I will only repeat this post thrice. Thank
you.
Moviscop - only good for parts IMHO ; bulb functional
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Magnasync M-50 Tabletop viewer - excellent & rare
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SpectraCine Color Temperature Meter
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: getting rid of shadows |
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Thanks for that...
I'm doing a digital video shoot and the main set is a large open living
room.
Is there any technique I can use to eliminate the shadows but not make it
look like the lights are extremely dim?
"David Mullen" <davidm2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Dim lighting, forced processing, fast film have nothing to do with
eliminating shadows. Using extremely SOFT light from a frontal angle
does.
All that fast film, forced processing, etc. allows you to do is achieve it
with fewer footcandles, in exchange for graininess.
David Mullen
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I understand that Kubrick used to combine dim lighting with fast film
stock
and forced processing to create a look in some of his films that
eliminated
shadows.
How would you replicate an effect like this on video? Dim lighting with
higher shutter speeds and increasing the gain?
TB
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A. Film Guy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: getting rid of shadows |
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"TB" <xoxox@xoxox.com> wrote in message news:<beih1e$c2p$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>...
| Quote: | I understand that Kubrick used to combine dim lighting with fast film stock
and forced processing to create a look in some of his films that eliminated
shadows.
How would you replicate an effect like this on video? Dim lighting with
higher shutter speeds and increasing the gain?
TB
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Theres hard light ( point light) and soft light ( diffudse light). The
latter is less likely to produce shadows.
IF flat lighting is the look you're after, anyway.
Shadows tend to be a good thing; without any, objects lose form and
seperation.
Footcandle level has nothing to do with the quality of the light. |
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