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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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A trip to the movies used to be reliable, affordable fun for people of
every class. Now, movie-going has become to movie-watching what riding the
city bus is to transportation. Increasingly, discerning people wait for the
home video release.
The Dark Knight comes out this week. It'll be the last non-3D movie I ever
plan ahead to see at the cinema. DVD and Blu-Ray for me from now on. "Going
to the movies" has become too stressful, for the following reasons:
Prices, marketing bombardment, lineups, incompetent staff and uncaring
management, and finally the biggest reason of all - the audience.
1. PRICES - I don't mind paying $13 or so for a movie ticket, but the price
of a large popcorn and Coke combo is now up to $15 including tax. What's
worse, the pop is usually either flat, too syrupy, or not syrupy enough,
and the popcorn has enough merry widows that you can never really relax and
just munch away for fear or splintering your fucking teeth.
For this much money I can purchase the DVD to watch at home, pay for better
snacks, and not have to put up with any of the annoyances below:
2. MARKETING BOMBARDMENT - There might only be one person in front of you
in the line for tickets, but you could be standing there for the next five
minutes while the clerk runs through the script explaining the various
cards and clubs that they want the person to join to "save money." Then you
step up and are subjected to the same pitch, unless you're like me and you
cut them off before they start. This is just the first of many captive
marketing pitches you'll enjoy on a typical trip to the movies. These days
I preface every request at Famous Players with "I don't have a SCENE card,
can I please have X?"
3. LINEUPS - Typically there will be about ten employees behind the candy
counter, but only one or two people manning registers. Then after you wait
for them to bumble and pester through serving the people in front of you,
you finally are being served, only to have one of the people who seem to be
just milling about come over and interrupt the person serving you with some
question like "Where is the popcorn salt?" and then they disappear. This'll
usually happen when all you need is for them to hand you the already full
Coke from the fountain, or even just hand you your change. I've lost my
patience with this and now stop the kid saying "Hey buddy finish serving me
for another twenty seconds then go hunt for that stuff okay?"
4. INCOMPETENT STAFF, UNCARING MANAGEMENT - I can't remember the last time
I went to the movies and had all of the following go smoothly:
a. Buying my tickets with a real person.
b. Buying my popcorn and coke. Somehow it always takes forever and
involves a lot of frustration and having to repeat myself.
c. Having my ticket ripped. The kid will inevitably not be at his
ticket ripping station, then come running up behind me as I'm trying to go
into the movie. Or even worse he'll be there but with his back turned,
usually discussing his break time with another little shithead who never
thinks to say "turn around, you have customers".
e. Enjoying a movie with good picture and sound. When I saw Hellboy 2
yesterday I could swear none of the rear speakers were turned on. When I
saw Iron Man the house lights were so bright that I could hardly focus on
the picture. When I saw Speed Racer the whole movie was incredibly quiet,
as if someone's ass had touched a volume knob in the projection booth...
And finally, the biggest reason of all to never go to the fucking movies
again:
5. THE AUDIENCE - People are becoming increasingly solipsistic and it
becomes very evident at the movies. Here are some directives for my former
fellow audience members:
a. FUCK YOU
b. PUT YOUR FEET DOWN
corollary: don't cross your legs with white sneakers on and jitter
your feet in some kind of passive-agressive way to communicate your
involvement or lack thereof with the events onscreen to the rest of the
audience
c. SHUT UP AND WATCH THE MOVIE
d. PUT YOUR CELL PHONE AWAY
e. KEEP YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOURSELF
I could probably live with the first four problems, if not for how
incredibly irritating the audience has become. I've been going to the
movies quite a bit since the late eighties, and cinema goers have become
considerably more rude and inconsiderate. What's funny is I remember movies
being a lot busier back in the nineties before there were so many screens,
so even with people crammed together in shitty seats they were still
behaved better than the people of today acting like total shitheads with
tons of legroom and personal space.
Thanks for listening.
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Red Cloud
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Jul 13, 9:13 am, Tweek <tw...@theinternets.com> wrote:
| Quote: | A trip to the movies used to be reliable, affordable fun for people of
every class. Now, movie-going has become to movie-watching what riding the
city bus is to transportation. Increasingly, discerning people wait for the
home video release.
The Dark Knight comes out this week. It'll be the last non-3D movie I ever
plan ahead to see at the cinema. DVD and Blu-Ray for me from now on. "Going
to the movies" has become too stressful, for the following reasons:
Prices, marketing bombardment, lineups, incompetent staff and uncaring
management, and finally the biggest reason of all - the audience.
1. PRICES - I don't mind paying $13 or so for a movie ticket, but the price
of a large popcorn and Coke combo is now up to $15 including tax. What's
worse, the pop is usually either flat, too syrupy, or not syrupy enough,
and the popcorn has enough merry widows that you can never really relax and
just munch away for fear or splintering your fucking teeth.
For this much money I can purchase the DVD to watch at home, pay for better
snacks, and not have to put up with any of the annoyances below:
2. MARKETING BOMBARDMENT - There might only be one person in front of you
in the line for tickets, but you could be standing there for the next five
minutes while the clerk runs through the script explaining the various
cards and clubs that they want the person to join to "save money." Then you
step up and are subjected to the same pitch, unless you're like me and you
cut them off before they start. This is just the first of many captive
marketing pitches you'll enjoy on a typical trip to the movies. These days
I preface every request at Famous Players with "I don't have a SCENE card,
can I please have X?"
3. LINEUPS - Typically there will be about ten employees behind the candy
counter, but only one or two people manning registers. Then after you wait
for them to bumble and pester through serving the people in front of you,
you finally are being served, only to have one of the people who seem to be
just milling about come over and interrupt the person serving you with some
question like "Where is the popcorn salt?" and then they disappear. This'll
usually happen when all you need is for them to hand you the already full
Coke from the fountain, or even just hand you your change. I've lost my
patience with this and now stop the kid saying "Hey buddy finish serving me
for another twenty seconds then go hunt for that stuff okay?"
4. INCOMPETENT STAFF, UNCARING MANAGEMENT - I can't remember the last time
I went to the movies and had all of the following go smoothly:
a. Buying my tickets with a real person.
b. Buying my popcorn and coke. Somehow it always takes forever and
involves a lot of frustration and having to repeat myself.
c. Having my ticket ripped. The kid will inevitably not be at his
ticket ripping station, then come running up behind me as I'm trying to go
into the movie. Or even worse he'll be there but with his back turned,
usually discussing his break time with another little shithead who never
thinks to say "turn around, you have customers".
e. Enjoying a movie with good picture and sound. When I saw Hellboy 2
yesterday I could swear none of the rear speakers were turned on. When I
saw Iron Man the house lights were so bright that I could hardly focus on
the picture. When I saw Speed Racer the whole movie was incredibly quiet,
as if someone's ass had touched a volume knob in the projection booth...
And finally, the biggest reason of all to never go to the fucking movies
again:
5. THE AUDIENCE - People are becoming increasingly solipsistic and it
becomes very evident at the movies. Here are some directives for my former
fellow audience members:
a. FUCK YOU
b. PUT YOUR FEET DOWN
corollary: don't cross your legs with white sneakers on and jitter
your feet in some kind of passive-agressive way to communicate your
involvement or lack thereof with the events onscreen to the rest of the
audience
c. SHUT UP AND WATCH THE MOVIE
d. PUT YOUR CELL PHONE AWAY
e. KEEP YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOURSELF
I could probably live with the first four problems, if not for how
incredibly irritating the audience has become. I've been going to the
movies quite a bit since the late eighties, and cinema goers have become
considerably more rude and inconsiderate. What's funny is I remember movies
being a lot busier back in the nineties before there were so many screens,
so even with people crammed together in shitty seats they were still
behaved better than the people of today acting like total shitheads with
tons of legroom and personal space.
Thanks for listening.
--
Tweek
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Simple solutions:
1) Stay away from mainstream theaters.
2) Don't watch 1-week opening
3) Don't watch bad movie for complaining.
4) Don't be fool by in-your-face-advertising scheme |
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moviePig
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Jul 13, 12:33 pm, Tweek <tw...@theinternets.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In the audience section, I forgot to list:
f. STOP KICKING MY SEAT
g. DON'T SIT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ME IF THERE ARE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS
h. DON'T ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND A NEVERENDING SERIES OF INCREDIBLY SIMPLISTIC
AND FATUOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOVIE - Some of the anthro courses I've
taken would explain this as the girl trying to put her boyfriend in the
"linguistic 1-up position" which is a passive-agressive ploy to make him be
nice to her. So not only am I distracted and annoyed by listening to your
discussion, but I become preoccupied in speculating about the interplay of
your psychology
i. DON'T TRY TO BE QUIET BY SLOOOOOWLY OPENING SOMETHING VERY CRINKLY - I
appreciate the thought at first, but it becomes infuriating when you don't
figure out you're making it worse. Here's a tip if you want to be quiet
with M&M's: pour them into your hand about a quarter or a fifth of a bag at
a time, rather than trying to quietly dig them out of the bag.
j. DON't JUMP UP AND LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU SENSE THE CREDITS ARE ABOUT TO
ROLL - It's annoying
k. DON'T COME INTO THE MOVIE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE CREDITS AND SIT RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND CONJECTURE ALOUD ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE
MISSED
I'll probably think of more... it all pretty much boils down to STFU and
watch the movie.
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This is a dark and bottomless pit you burrow, grasshopper. Better to
click your ruby slippers and repeat, "the Truth isn't everything..."
My own belief is that what bothers us so isn't even these various
inconveniences we suffer, but rather its our indignance at the sheer
bald-ass obliviousness of the perpetrators in each instance. Trouble
is, that particular sage realization seems only to intensify one's
hostility. I.e., you'd expect we'd be content to realize that
Darwin's scythe will eventually squash these fools while, say,
picnicking on some airport runway. Yet, each encounter seems always
to spawn our red-tinged sense of urgent duty to sight those crosshairs
*now*, and be done with it...
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calvin
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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Ok, now listen to my gripes about watching movies in my
little simulated-home-theater movie room:
1) uh .... hmmm .... well .... hey, I thought of one, that
FBI warning thing |
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moviePig
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Jul 13, 2:51 pm, "Alric Knebel" <al...@cableone.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "moviePig" <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote in message
news:b9006d05-496c-4e35-a70b-795ec687ad53@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 13, 12:33 pm, Tweek <tw...@theinternets.com> wrote:
In the audience section, I forgot to list:
f. STOP KICKING MY SEAT
g. DON'T SIT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ME IF THERE ARE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS
h. DON'T ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND A NEVERENDING SERIES OF INCREDIBLY SIMPLISTIC
AND FATUOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOVIE - Some of the anthro courses I've
taken would explain this as the girl trying to put her boyfriend in the
"linguistic 1-up position" which is a passive-agressive ploy to make him
be
nice to her. So not only am I distracted and annoyed by listening to your
discussion, but I become preoccupied in speculating about the interplay of
your psychology
i. DON'T TRY TO BE QUIET BY SLOOOOOWLY OPENING SOMETHING VERY CRINKLY - I
appreciate the thought at first, but it becomes infuriating when you don't
figure out you're making it worse. Here's a tip if you want to be quiet
with M&M's: pour them into your hand about a quarter or a fifth of a bag
at
a time, rather than trying to quietly dig them out of the bag.
j. DON't JUMP UP AND LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU SENSE THE CREDITS ARE ABOUT TO
ROLL - It's annoying
k. DON'T COME INTO THE MOVIE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE CREDITS AND SIT RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND CONJECTURE ALOUD ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE
MISSED
I'll probably think of more... it all pretty much boils down to STFU and
watch the movie.
This is a dark and bottomless pit you burrow, grasshopper. Better to
click your ruby slippers and repeat, "the Truth isn't everything..."
My own belief is that what bothers us so isn't even these various
inconveniences we suffer, but rather its our indignance at the sheer
bald-ass obliviousness of the perpetrators in each instance. Trouble
is, that particular sage realization seems only to intensify one's
hostility. I.e., you'd expect we'd be content to realize that
Darwin's scythe will eventually squash these fools while, say,
picnicking on some airport runway. Yet, each encounter seems always
to spawn our red-tinged sense of urgent duty to sight those crosshairs
*now*, and be done with it...
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The only thing in that whole rant that I could really agree with, that would
be worth my time to sit down and write about, it's the thing with the
cellphones in the darkened theater. THAT bothers me, because it spears into
my periphery vision. I don't know if I just get into the movie so much I
just don't notice, or if people like the misanthropic OP or so hostile,
EVERYTHING bothers them. I enjoy other people being in the theater,
especially for a blockbuster film, like THE INCREDIBLE HULK. Their presence
makes it more fun, not worse.
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For those people's genuine, spontaneous-yet-courteous reactions,
especially to movies like HULK... absolutely. But I fear that either
(the OP and) I have developed a radar-like hypersensitivity to the
boorishness he describes, or else public decorum really is generally
going to hell in a stadium-seated handbasket. (Btw, you're in the
South, which many Northerners regard as more prone to such anti-social
behavior... but, fwiw, I've found Southern audiences to be
*considerably* better behaved than their Northern counterparts. Not a
lot of data there... but consistent...)
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Tweek
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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In the audience section, I forgot to list:
f. STOP KICKING MY SEAT
g. DON'T SIT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ME IF THERE ARE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS
h. DON'T ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND A NEVERENDING SERIES OF INCREDIBLY SIMPLISTIC
AND FATUOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOVIE - Some of the anthro courses I've
taken would explain this as the girl trying to put her boyfriend in the
"linguistic 1-up position" which is a passive-agressive ploy to make him be
nice to her. So not only am I distracted and annoyed by listening to your
discussion, but I become preoccupied in speculating about the interplay of
your psychology
i. DON'T TRY TO BE QUIET BY SLOOOOOWLY OPENING SOMETHING VERY CRINKLY - I
appreciate the thought at first, but it becomes infuriating when you don't
figure out you're making it worse. Here's a tip if you want to be quiet
with M&M's: pour them into your hand about a quarter or a fifth of a bag at
a time, rather than trying to quietly dig them out of the bag.
j. DON't JUMP UP AND LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU SENSE THE CREDITS ARE ABOUT TO
ROLL - It's annoying
k. DON'T COME INTO THE MOVIE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE CREDITS AND SIT RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND CONJECTURE ALOUD ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE
MISSED
I'll probably think of more... it all pretty much boils down to STFU and
watch the movie. |
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Russell Watson
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:33:26 GMT, Tweek <tweek@theinternets.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | In the audience section, I forgot to list:
f. STOP KICKING MY SEAT
g. DON'T SIT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ME IF THERE ARE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS
h. DON'T ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND A NEVERENDING SERIES OF INCREDIBLY SIMPLISTIC
AND FATUOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOVIE - Some of the anthro courses I've
taken would explain this as the girl trying to put her boyfriend in the
"linguistic 1-up position" which is a passive-agressive ploy to make him be
nice to her. So not only am I distracted and annoyed by listening to your
discussion, but I become preoccupied in speculating about the interplay of
your psychology
i. DON'T TRY TO BE QUIET BY SLOOOOOWLY OPENING SOMETHING VERY CRINKLY - I
appreciate the thought at first, but it becomes infuriating when you don't
figure out you're making it worse. Here's a tip if you want to be quiet
with M&M's: pour them into your hand about a quarter or a fifth of a bag at
a time, rather than trying to quietly dig them out of the bag.
j. DON't JUMP UP AND LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU SENSE THE CREDITS ARE ABOUT TO
ROLL - It's annoying
k. DON'T COME INTO THE MOVIE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE CREDITS AND SIT RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND CONJECTURE ALOUD ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE
MISSED
I'll probably think of more... it all pretty much boils down to STFU and
watch the movie.
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When the wife and I saw "Wanted" on opening day a couple of weeks back
it was quite full for a weekday mid-afternoon showing and there were
many late arrivals doing the "Where can we sit?" thing. It always
surprises me that it takes people so fucking long to tumble to the
idea that if you come into a full theater after the trailers have
started in a group of more than 2 you are a) not going to be able to
all sit together and b)there's no point in even looking in the areas
where the choice seats are: you are pretty much off to one of the far
sides or down front. Anyway, one of these late-arriving morons ended
up on the front row about 2/3 of the way over from my aisle seat which
was 3 rows down from the top. They spent the entire movie texting on
their phone with someone and I was amazed at just how bright that
fucking little screen appears from that far away in a dark theater. It
was a serious distraction to me and I spent the movie wishing I ahd a
gun like the ones in the movie to first shoot the thing out of their
hands and then after giving them a moment to grasp what had happened
and why putting one through their fucking skull as an object lesson to
their fellow miscreants for future reference.
On that subject of finding a seat, I am am an aisle person. Even
though I know it means I will probably have people going back and
forth in front of me during the movie I prefer to sit on the end with
the exception of the largest theaters at the local AMC, which have a
wide center ailse running the width of the room about halfway up. If I
catch a showing in there I will sit in the middle on that row. Because
I like to pick my seat I am usually standing at the door when the
cleaning sign goes off and the seating sign comes on. Because people
have a natural tendency to put space between themselves and strangers
when there is an option to do so it is not unusal for a seat to be
vacant between me (if I'm alone) or my wife (if we're together) and
the next person over, and sometimes even a couple of seats. I have in
recent memory actually had people ask me if we will move over rather
than filling in the gaps and I have had to tell more than one your
"Fuck you" response as a result of being called "asshole" or some
other such endearing term because I won't surrender a seat I arrived
early to make sure I got to make room for them on the end. They seem
to think that because they ask semi-politely you are supposed to just
happily comply and if you don't then YOU'RE the jerk, not them for
arriving late. |
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calvin
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Jul 13, 7:23 pm, "Steve Harclerode"
<Camel.Software...@hot.mail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I had a friend from the South that said people were more polite
there...because if they weren't, someone would shoot them. My hope at the
time was that he was kidding.
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Thumper
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:11:46 -0400, Russell Watson
<russell-watson@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:33:26 GMT, Tweek <tweek@theinternets.com
wrote:
In the audience section, I forgot to list:
f. STOP KICKING MY SEAT
g. DON'T SIT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ME IF THERE ARE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS
h. DON'T ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND A NEVERENDING SERIES OF INCREDIBLY SIMPLISTIC
AND FATUOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOVIE - Some of the anthro courses I've
taken would explain this as the girl trying to put her boyfriend in the
"linguistic 1-up position" which is a passive-agressive ploy to make him be
nice to her. So not only am I distracted and annoyed by listening to your
discussion, but I become preoccupied in speculating about the interplay of
your psychology
i. DON'T TRY TO BE QUIET BY SLOOOOOWLY OPENING SOMETHING VERY CRINKLY - I
appreciate the thought at first, but it becomes infuriating when you don't
figure out you're making it worse. Here's a tip if you want to be quiet
with M&M's: pour them into your hand about a quarter or a fifth of a bag at
a time, rather than trying to quietly dig them out of the bag.
j. DON't JUMP UP AND LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU SENSE THE CREDITS ARE ABOUT TO
ROLL - It's annoying
k. DON'T COME INTO THE MOVIE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE CREDITS AND SIT RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND CONJECTURE ALOUD ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE
MISSED
I'll probably think of more... it all pretty much boils down to STFU and
watch the movie.
When the wife and I saw "Wanted" on opening day a couple of weeks back
it was quite full for a weekday mid-afternoon showing and there were
many late arrivals doing the "Where can we sit?" thing. It always
surprises me that it takes people so fucking long to tumble to the
idea that if you come into a full theater after the trailers have
started in a group of more than 2 you are a) not going to be able to
all sit together and b)there's no point in even looking in the areas
where the choice seats are: you are pretty much off to one of the far
sides or down front. Anyway, one of these late-arriving morons ended
up on the front row about 2/3 of the way over from my aisle seat which
was 3 rows down from the top. They spent the entire movie texting on
their phone with someone and I was amazed at just how bright that
fucking little screen appears from that far away in a dark theater. It
was a serious distraction to me and I spent the movie wishing I ahd a
gun like the ones in the movie to first shoot the thing out of their
hands and then after giving them a moment to grasp what had happened
and why putting one through their fucking skull as an object lesson to
their fellow miscreants for future reference.
On that subject of finding a seat, I am am an aisle person. Even
though I know it means I will probably have people going back and
forth in front of me during the movie I prefer to sit on the end with
the exception of the largest theaters at the local AMC, which have a
wide center ailse running the width of the room about halfway up. If I
catch a showing in there I will sit in the middle on that row. Because
I like to pick my seat I am usually standing at the door when the
cleaning sign goes off and the seating sign comes on. Because people
have a natural tendency to put space between themselves and strangers
when there is an option to do so it is not unusal for a seat to be
vacant between me (if I'm alone) or my wife (if we're together) and
the next person over, and sometimes even a couple of seats. I have in
recent memory actually had people ask me if we will move over rather
than filling in the gaps and I have had to tell more than one your
"Fuck you" response as a result of being called "asshole" or some
other such endearing term because I won't surrender a seat I arrived
early to make sure I got to make room for them on the end. They seem
to think that because they ask semi-politely you are supposed to just
happily comply and if you don't then YOU'RE the jerk, not them for
arriving late.
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I agree with you but my wife and I go to the first showing of the day
and not only do not run into this anymore but only have to pay $5.00 a
ticket. I haven't solved the popcorn problem yet except to just not
buy it. I shouldn't have it anyway.
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Alric Knebel
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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"Tweek" <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote:
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5. THE AUDIENCE - People are becoming increasingly solipsistic . . . .
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LOL! Yeah. Right. But that doesn't apply to YOU, right?
Look, I haven't experienced ANY of these things frequently enough to even
remembe the last time any of it happened. You seem to have been on a rant
in which you exaggerated anything that could possibly go wrong, even to
tearing of the ticket. Christ. Your problem isn't other people. It's YOU.
Something is seriously wrong with your karma.
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM DECENT FOLKS! Clearly you hate people and you're
just looking for an excuse to hate them. The problem is your soul. Look to
it.
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Alric Knebel
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Jul 13, 12:33 pm, Tweek <tw...@theinternets.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In the audience section, I forgot to list:
f. STOP KICKING MY SEAT
g. DON'T SIT IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO ME IF THERE ARE LOTS OF EMPTY SEATS
h. DON'T ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND A NEVERENDING SERIES OF INCREDIBLY SIMPLISTIC
AND FATUOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOVIE - Some of the anthro courses I've
taken would explain this as the girl trying to put her boyfriend in the
"linguistic 1-up position" which is a passive-agressive ploy to make him
be
nice to her. So not only am I distracted and annoyed by listening to your
discussion, but I become preoccupied in speculating about the interplay of
your psychology
i. DON'T TRY TO BE QUIET BY SLOOOOOWLY OPENING SOMETHING VERY CRINKLY - I
appreciate the thought at first, but it becomes infuriating when you don't
figure out you're making it worse. Here's a tip if you want to be quiet
with M&M's: pour them into your hand about a quarter or a fifth of a bag
at
a time, rather than trying to quietly dig them out of the bag.
j. DON't JUMP UP AND LEAVE AS SOON AS YOU SENSE THE CREDITS ARE ABOUT TO
ROLL - It's annoying
k. DON'T COME INTO THE MOVIE FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE CREDITS AND SIT RIGHT
IN FRONT OF ME WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AND CONJECTURE ALOUD ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE
MISSED
I'll probably think of more... it all pretty much boils down to STFU and
watch the movie.
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This is a dark and bottomless pit you burrow, grasshopper. Better to
click your ruby slippers and repeat, "the Truth isn't everything..."
My own belief is that what bothers us so isn't even these various
inconveniences we suffer, but rather its our indignance at the sheer
bald-ass obliviousness of the perpetrators in each instance. Trouble
is, that particular sage realization seems only to intensify one's
hostility. I.e., you'd expect we'd be content to realize that
Darwin's scythe will eventually squash these fools while, say,
picnicking on some airport runway. Yet, each encounter seems always
to spawn our red-tinged sense of urgent duty to sight those crosshairs
*now*, and be done with it...
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The only thing in that whole rant that I could really agree with, that would
be worth my time to sit down and write about, it's the thing with the
cellphones in the darkened theater. THAT bothers me, because it spears into
my periphery vision. I don't know if I just get into the movie so much I
just don't notice, or if people like the misanthropic OP or so hostile,
EVERYTHING bothers them. I enjoy other people being in the theater,
especially for a blockbuster film, like THE INCREDIBLE HULK. Their presence
makes it more fun, not worse.
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Tweek
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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"Alric Knebel" <alric@cableone.net> wrote in
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"Tweek" <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote:
5. THE AUDIENCE - People are becoming increasingly solipsistic . . .
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LOL! Yeah. Right. But that doesn't apply to YOU, right?
Look, I haven't experienced ANY of these things frequently enough to
even remembe the last time any of it happened. You seem to have been
on a rant in which you exaggerated anything that could possibly go
wrong, even to tearing of the ticket. Christ. Your problem isn't
other people. It's YOU. Something is seriously wrong with your karma.
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM DECENT FOLKS! Clearly you hate people and
you're just looking for an excuse to hate them. The problem is your
soul. Look to it.
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No actually, it doesn't apply to me. I'm extremely polite and go out of my
way to be considerate and comport myself like a gentleman. I pay attention
to people around me and pro-actively seek not to annoy them or defeat the
purpose of whatever they're doing. I'm pretty much neurotic about it, and
this is probably half the reason it drives me to histrionics.
To you and Red Cloud, this rant only applies to multiplexes. I will still
drive into Toronto for the occasional *film*, but I'll no longer be buying
tickets for what I already expect to be middling fare, which up til now
wsa justified on the basis that all the boom-boom and computer graphics
are better appreciated on a big screen with "big sound". Lately I've
started to notice my home sound is superior to most any theatre I attend.
How often do you go to the movies? On Friday at Hellboy 2, I experienced
all of the following:
- Nobody ripped my ticket, but there were three employees just milling
about, clogging the choke point to the auditoriums where normally you'd
expect to have your ticket ripped. I had to dodge the biggest fattest one
because he decided to suddenly start walking backwards as I was trying to
scoot past him.
- Girl serving me at the concession was interrupted by one of several
people just milling about behind her. I don't think it was even work
related, they were just goofing around in the middle of serving me.
- A full cup of unpopped or partially poppped kernels in my $8.50 popcorn
- The fifty year old man sitting in the seat to my left pulled out his
cellphone to text or check incoming calls about fifteen times
- Two teenagers in my row had their feet up and down and shaking and
kicking all around the entire movie, wearing white sneakers. The human eye
detetcs motion on the periphery just as much as in the center of focus.
Try putting something high-contrast to the background at the side of your
peripheral vision, then shake it back and forth and try to ignore it. You
can't, it's instinct. Your drive is to turn focus towards it.
- I had to change seats at first because there was a family in the row
behind me who decided the auditorium was their living room, so they were
all gonna put their feet up on the back of my row and let the kids romp
around
Of course none of these things happen EVERY time, but at least a few of
them happen every time I go, ESPECIALLY the ticket ripping thing. I can't
remember the last time someone was actually standing attentively waiting
to rip my ticket. I pretty much only go to matinees, so maybe that's why.
Still, it pisses me off. Either have someone ripping them, or don't, but
if you do, make sure they do the goddamn job!
I don't know how you're lucky enough to not experience these things. I am
in the suburbs. I have noticed that multiplexes that are really busy, like
in downtown Toronto, actually seem to run better. Probably because people
are forced to focus on their job at all times or fall hopelessly behind
the rush.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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"Tweek" <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Alric Knebel" <alric@cableone.net> wrote in
news:AaKdnV6T66ew0OfVnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@giganews.com:
"Tweek" <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote:
5. THE AUDIENCE - People are becoming increasingly solipsistic . . .
.
LOL! Yeah. Right. But that doesn't apply to YOU, right?
Look, I haven't experienced ANY of these things frequently enough to
even remembe the last time any of it happened. You seem to have been
on a rant in which you exaggerated anything that could possibly go
wrong, even to tearing of the ticket. Christ. Your problem isn't
other people. It's YOU. Something is seriously wrong with your karma.
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM DECENT FOLKS! Clearly you hate people and
you're just looking for an excuse to hate them. The problem is your
soul. Look to it.
No actually, it doesn't apply to me. I'm extremely polite and go out of my
way to be considerate and comport myself like a gentleman. I pay attention
to people around me and pro-actively seek not to annoy them or defeat the
purpose of whatever they're doing. I'm pretty much neurotic about it, and
this is probably half the reason it drives me to histrionics.
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No, actually it applies to you completely When someone pro-actively sought
to not bother you by slowly taking out their candy, you bitched at them for
being too considerate and making the matters worse. How do YOU eat candy or
popcorn without making noise? If you're engaging in these activities,
you'll most certainly be making noice. But let me take at least one other
point below.
| Quote: | How often do you go to the movies? On Friday at Hellboy 2, I experienced
all of the following:
- Nobody ripped my ticket, but there were three employees just milling
about, clogging the choke point to the auditoriums where normally you'd
expect to have your ticket ripped. I had to dodge the biggest fattest one
because he decided to suddenly start walking backwards as I was trying to
scoot past him.
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How fucking important is it to have your ticket torn. You've already proven
you paid to get in, and that's all the ticket is for. I don't get my ticket
torn lots of times. It's not big deal. And your attitude about teh
"fattest one" shows you have a shitty anti-social personality. Let me go
below some more to see what other milestones in cinema terror you've
experienced. . . .
| Quote: | - Girl serving me at the concession was interrupted by one of several
people just milling about behind her. I don't think it was even work
related, they were just goofing around in the middle of serving me.
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Oh, for crying outloud. Get over it. It's just kids being kids. If you
had a friendlier outlook, it wouldn't look so bad to you. You resent their
youth. I stopped buying all that stuff because it interferes with the movie
for me, and the munching and trying not to spill anything in the dark and so
on. I have just the coffee.
| Quote: | - A full cup of unpopped or partially poppped kernels in my $8.50 popcorn
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Oh, bullshit. There are always remants of those things in the cups, but a
FULL cup? I don't think so. And if you bought the $8.50 bag, surely you
had enough popcorn by the time you reached them.
| Quote: | - The fifty year old man sitting in the seat to my left pulled out his
cellphone to text or check incoming calls about fifteen times
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THAT you should have said something about.
| Quote: | - Two teenagers in my row had their feet up and down and shaking and
kicking all around the entire movie, wearing white sneakers. The human eye
detetcs motion on the periphery just as much as in the center of focus.
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You just enjoy being annoyed. It was HELLBOY. You should have been having
a good time, and enjoying the hell out of the eye-popping visuals, and not
paying attention to that sort of thing.
| Quote: | Try putting something high-contrast to the background at the side of your
peripheral vision, then shake it back and forth and try to ignore it. You
can't, it's instinct. Your drive is to turn focus towards it.
- I had to change seats at first because there was a family in the row
behind me who decided the auditorium was their living room, so they were
all gonna put their feet up on the back of my row and let the kids romp
around
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This sounds like such crap.
| Quote: | Of course none of these things happen EVERY time, but at least a few of
them happen every time I go, ESPECIALLY the ticket ripping thing. I can't
remember the last time someone was actually standing attentively waiting
to rip my ticket. I pretty much only go to matinees, so maybe that's why.
Still, it pisses me off. Either have someone ripping them, or don't, but
if you do, make sure they do the goddamn job!
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Ripping you ticket isn't high on anyone's priority list. That you PAY is,
and the fact that you have a ticket is what counts. Why does it even matter
if your ticket is torn or not? If it's that important, tear it your damned
self.
| Quote: | I don't know how you're lucky enough to not experience these things. I am
in the suburbs. I have noticed that multiplexes that are really busy, like
in downtown Toronto, actually seem to run better. Probably because people
are forced to focus on their job at all times or fall hopelessly behind
the rush.
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You have bad karma that comes from a bad attitude. I'm curious. How old
are you?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:13:06 GMT, Tweek <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I could probably live with the first four problems, if not for how
incredibly irritating the audience has become. I've been going to the
movies quite a bit since the late eighties, and cinema goers have become
considerably more rude and inconsiderate. What's funny is I remember movies
being a lot busier back in the nineties before there were so many screens,
so even with people crammed together in shitty seats they were still
behaved better than the people of today acting like total shitheads with
tons of legroom and personal space.
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The secret for me is to go at non-peak hours. I do lots of matinee shows,
both for the discount tickets, and because I can often walk into my movie of
choice and count the number of others there on one hand. It helps also to
go late in a movie's run, after almost everyone who is going to see it has
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Goodbye To The Cinema - Home Video From Now On For Me |
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"Alric Knebel" <alric@cableone.net> wrote in
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"Tweek" <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9ADA9B3DFD3C1tweektheinternetscom@216.221.81.119...
"Alric Knebel" <alric@cableone.net> wrote in
news:AaKdnV6T66ew0OfVnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@giganews.com:
"Tweek" <tweek@theinternets.com> wrote:
No actually, it doesn't apply to me. I'm extremely polite and go out
of my way to be considerate and comport myself like a gentleman. I
pay attention to people around me and pro-actively seek not to annoy
them or defeat the purpose of whatever they're doing. I'm pretty much
neurotic about it, and this is probably half the reason it drives me
to histrionics.
No, actually it applies to you completely When someone pro-actively
sought to not bother you by slowly taking out their candy, you bitched
at them for being too considerate and making the matters worse. How
do YOU eat candy or popcorn without making noise? If you're engaging
in these activities, you'll most certainly be making noice. But let
me take at least one other point below.
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I didn't bitch at anybody. I went home and typed my complaint into a movie
newsgroup, in order to purge my feelings so that I can continue being
pleasant when out in public. Yes, I get annoyed when someone makes a
problem worse, regardless of their intentions. Call me crazy but if you
burn my house down lighting my birthday candles, I'm going to be pissed
off.
| Quote: | How often do you go to the movies? On Friday at Hellboy 2, I
experienced all of the following:
- Nobody ripped my ticket, but there were three employees just
milling about, clogging the choke point to the auditoriums where
normally you'd expect to have your ticket ripped. I had to dodge the
biggest fattest one because he decided to suddenly start walking
backwards as I was trying to scoot past him.
How fucking important is it to have your ticket torn. You've already
proven you paid to get in, and that's all the ticket is for. I don't
get my ticket torn lots of times. It's not big deal. And your
attitude about teh "fattest one" shows you have a shitty anti-social
personality. Let me go below some more to see what other milestones
in cinema terror you've experienced. . . .
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You miss the point. I don't care whether my ticket is ripped or not. What
bothers me is when I know THEY want to rip it, but they're not there at
the ticket-ripping place to do it... they end up running behind you saying
"Can I see your ticket" which breaks my rhythmn. What's worse is when they
are there but they have their backs turned, or they're there, and see me
getting napkins and straws, but by the time I walk ten feet over to have
my ticket ripped they have started doing something else and I'm having to
wait for them. During such times I feel like an unpaid employee
conscripted into the movie exhibition business, as my time is being used
to increase their "efficiency."
| Quote: | - Girl serving me at the concession was interrupted by one of several
people just milling about behind her. I don't think it was even work
related, they were just goofing around in the middle of serving me.
Oh, for crying outloud. Get over it. It's just kids being kids. If
you had a friendlier outlook, it wouldn't look so bad to you. You
resent their youth. I stopped buying all that stuff because it
interferes with the movie for me, and the munching and trying not to
spill anything in the dark and so on. I have just the coffee.
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Other kids annoyed me when I was a kid. Kids are annoying and
irresponsible little shits. When I worked at The Second Cup in my youth, I
was extremely vigilant to waste none of the customer's time. It's a basic
part of customer service.
| Quote: | - A full cup of unpopped or partially poppped kernels in my $8.50
popcorn
Oh, bullshit. There are always remants of those things in the cups,
but a FULL cup? I don't think so. And if you bought the $8.50 bag,
surely you had enough popcorn by the time you reached them.
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Dude, I shit you not: there is almost a full cup of this stuff sitting in
a *measuring cup* in my kitchen right now. Partially popped kernels take
up a lot of volume and don't settle to the bottom.
I got a refill on Friday and brought it home for watching DVDs. Last night
I started into eating it and as happens about every fourth time realized I
had gotten a bucket full of teeth breakers. I decided to sift through it
and drop every unppopped and partially popped kernel into a measuring cup.
I figure the problem is the way that the person filling the corn is
scooping. You have to scoop from the top..
| Quote: | - The fifty year old man sitting in the seat to my left pulled out
his cellphone to text or check incoming calls about fifteen times
THAT you should have said something about.
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I got the urge, but saying something usually leaves an air of tension, or
even worse, the person continues their activity after you've said
something and now you're forced to pussy out or escalate. Plus the movie
was pretty good and he was making some effort to conceal the light with
his jacket, it's just the fact I was sitting right next to him.
| Quote: | - Two teenagers in my row had their feet up and down and shaking and
kicking all around the entire movie, wearing white sneakers. The
human eye detetcs motion on the periphery just as much as in the
center of focus.
You just enjoy being annoyed. It was HELLBOY. You should have been
having a good time, and enjoying the hell out of the eye-popping
visuals, and not paying attention to that sort of thing.
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Do the peripheral vision motion test. I couldn't ignore it even though I
tried.
| Quote: | Try putting something high-contrast to the background at the side of
your peripheral vision, then shake it back and forth and try to
ignore it. You can't, it's instinct. Your drive is to turn focus
towards it. - I had to change seats at first because there was a
family in the row behind me who decided the auditorium was their
living room, so they were all gonna put their feet up on the back of
my row and let the kids romp around
This sounds like such crap.
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Why?
| Quote: | Of course none of these things happen EVERY time, but at least a few
of them happen every time I go, ESPECIALLY the ticket ripping thing.
I can't remember the last time someone was actually standing
attentively waiting to rip my ticket. I pretty much only go to
matinees, so maybe that's why. Still, it pisses me off. Either have
someone ripping them, or don't, but if you do, make sure they do the
goddamn job!
Ripping you ticket isn't high on anyone's priority list. That you PAY
is, and the fact that you have a ticket is what counts. Why does it
even matter if your ticket is torn or not? If it's that important,
tear it your damned self.
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See my explanation above about how I couldn't give a shit about having my
ticket ripped.
| Quote: | I don't know how you're lucky enough to not experience these things.
I am in the suburbs. I have noticed that multiplexes that are really
busy, like in downtown Toronto, actually seem to run better. Probably
because people are forced to focus on their job at all times or fall
hopelessly behind the rush.
You have bad karma that comes from a bad attitude. I'm curious. How
old are you?
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Yeah, I'm annoyed at the theatre because I have bad karma. Like karma
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